Comments on: Mormonism and Race http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/mormonism-and-race/ the universe is shrinking Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:43:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: WhiteEyebrows http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/mormonism-and-race/comment-page-1/#comment-10377 WhiteEyebrows Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:32:15 +0000 http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/?p=2793#comment-10377 Oh snap... unfortunate phrasing there... The meaning was Spencer W Kimball, who was a JR Apostle during David O McKay's tenure, would later receive the revelation when he was church president. Oh snap… unfortunate phrasing there… The meaning was Spencer W Kimball, who was a JR Apostle during David O McKay’s tenure, would later receive the revelation when he was church president.

]]> By: McKay Coppins http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/mormonism-and-race/comment-page-1/#comment-10370 McKay Coppins Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:41:04 +0000 http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/?p=2793#comment-10370 So the revelation came to Spencer W. Kimball when he was a junior apostle? Why didn't it come to the president of the church? I'm very interested in this. So the revelation came to Spencer W. Kimball when he was a junior apostle? Why didn’t it come to the president of the church? I’m very interested in this.

]]> By: tio http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/mormonism-and-race/comment-page-1/#comment-10363 tio Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:43:05 +0000 http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/?p=2793#comment-10363 I too encountered the "old timere" in Brazil. I am not not so sure if it was race that bothered them. I think a lot of it was socio-economic. the members of the church were of european descent but they were also the wealthy and the well educated. So I am not sure if they were disheartened with the color of their skin as much as the change in class and culture. Not saying that it was right, but i think it is grayer than just plain race. I too encountered the “old timere” in Brazil. I am not not so sure if it was race that bothered them. I think a lot of it was socio-economic. the members of the church were of european descent but they were also the wealthy and the well educated. So I am not sure if they were disheartened with the color of their skin as much as the change in class and culture. Not saying that it was right, but i think it is grayer than just plain race.

]]> By: alanna http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/mormonism-and-race/comment-page-1/#comment-10362 alanna Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:40:40 +0000 http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/?p=2793#comment-10362 Fascinating. Thanks for posting about this. Fascinating. Thanks for posting about this.

]]> By: WhiteEyebrows http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/mormonism-and-race/comment-page-1/#comment-10360 WhiteEyebrows Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:38:52 +0000 http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/?p=2793#comment-10360 http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/some-thoughts-on-race/ http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/some-thoughts-on-race/

]]> By: WhiteEyebrows http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/mormonism-and-race/comment-page-1/#comment-10359 WhiteEyebrows Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:33:16 +0000 http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/?p=2793#comment-10359 Yup. Not to derail, but depending how you define the word "doctrine", even those change from time to time. Certain things we think will never change (Faith in Christ, Repentance, etc), but that's the beauty of believing in modern revelation, things can (and will) change! Certainly the priesthood ban was taught over the years as doctrine, and many people viewed it as a change of doctrine. So we just get in the weeds a bit when it comes to definitions and perceptions of "doctrines", "practices", and "policies". Yup. Not to derail, but depending how you define the word “doctrine”, even those change from time to time. Certain things we think will never change (Faith in Christ, Repentance, etc), but that’s the beauty of believing in modern revelation, things can (and will) change! Certainly the priesthood ban was taught over the years as doctrine, and many people viewed it as a change of doctrine. So we just get in the weeds a bit when it comes to definitions and perceptions of “doctrines”, “practices”, and “policies”.

]]> By: A2 http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/mormonism-and-race/comment-page-1/#comment-10358 A2 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:14:09 +0000 http://www.whiteeyebrows.com/?p=2793#comment-10358 Appreciate your thoughts. Especially given that every lds church member must come to grips with this history at some point. My only personal experience to date was when I went to college and was taught a Book of Mormon class by an African professor who had spent years answering the question with "I don't know why" and then going on to explain that his faith/beliefs did not require a reason. Wow, that's conviction... and I'm sure that I was influenced by that experience. I also appreciate you distinguishing the difference between eternal, unchanging doctrine and Church policy as this is sometimes mis-understood and mis-represented by those both inside and outside of the church. Appreciate your thoughts. Especially given that every lds church member must come to grips with this history at some point.

My only personal experience to date was when I went to college and was taught a Book of Mormon class by an African professor who had spent years answering the question with “I don’t know why” and then going on to explain that his faith/beliefs did not require a reason. Wow, that’s conviction… and I’m sure that I was influenced by that experience.

I also appreciate you distinguishing the difference between eternal, unchanging doctrine and Church policy as this is sometimes mis-understood and mis-represented by those both inside and outside of the church.

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